Reprint from previous blog
BTW:Since 'The Hoax of Good Friday', an article by Pastor/Evangelist Leo
DeLorge started all this I thought it quite fitting that the title of another of
his sermons one on confidence be used here. If you're wondering what all this is
about, go read the 'Hoax of Good Friday and it's comments'.
There has been much pray and thought given to this reply. Since all this
started I have been accused of several things one of which is 'not having the
love of Jesus'. Love is telling the truth and that is all I've done., it would
not be love to allow people to sit calmly in a burning building unaware of the
fire about to consume them if I knew about it and did nothing. Ezekiel 33: 8. When I say unto
the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn
the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his
blood will I require at thine hand. I have been
accused of being a 'know it all' because I stand firm without waver on what I
say. There's a reason or 2 for that. First, I know that I know, that I know what
I know. Confidence. I know what the Scripture says and I stand boldly upon it. I
will not waver, move , nor compromise this stand. 2 Timothy 2: 15. Study to shew thyself
approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing
the word of truth.Romans 15: 14. And I myself also am persuaded
of you, my brethren, that ye also are full of goodness, filled with all
knowledge, able also to admonish one another. I have
been accused of calling someone a 'swine'. No, I didn't. I used a Scripture
Matthew 7: 6. Give
not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine,
lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
In this case 1st of all I was using this after
someone else had used it. I was not being hateful nor anything to the likeness
of that. This is just another example of someone taking Scripture and twisting
it. What this is talking about is if you share God's Truth with some one and
they refuse to hear it, then stop sharing because you are dishonoring God's Word
(Jesus), after a point. The part about rending means they will get nasty with
you when they've had all of the Truth they can stand. 2 Timothy 4:3. For the time will come when
they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap
to themselves teachers, having itching ears;4. And they shall turn away their
ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. I was accused of saying someone wasn't saved. I don't judge hearts, but I
do as scripture says John 4: 1. Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether
they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
I must look upon all to see their works to see if
they be of God or flesh.We are commanded to do so. This is so important because
we live in such a 'religious' world with little true Christianity and the
consequences are dire. Hebrews 9:27. And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this
the judgment:. I must take a moment here to say that
I am not a Baptist Brider, nor do I believe only Baptist make it to heaven
(well, yeah I sorta do believe that because you can only be saved by repentance
and faith and that is the Baptistic Doctrine, so I guess technically if
you are saved you are a Baptist by technicality if you know it or
not.) I do know people that I feel are saved beyond doubt, just that they are in
wrong churches and therefore will never get more than salvation, no rewards for
not obeying 2
Corinthians 6:17. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith
the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive
you. I have also been accused of turning The Word of
God (AKA:The Bible), into a dead writing instead of a living breathing document.
That is 180 degrees from what I've been saying all along and is what most of
this has all been about. The True Word of God is living and breathing
while the Catholic text are dead, dead, dead! There is NO Holy Spirit in
them. Never was, never will be just like
Catholicism!
I also heard I was 'corrected' by my ally. I don't
know where you get that. We agree on all the issues of salvation, and have some
dissagreements on secondary issues. I wasn't corrected from what I see, we just
don't agree in some areas that are not crucial to salvation. Now to answer those
things from the blog comments.
Kathy
Blog Entry: THE HOAX
OF GOOD FRIDAY
What makes the King James "version" of the Bible the only "correct"
translation? It is a translation afterall (named after an earthly King), and
original Hebrew and Greek documents, (aka, the Dead Sea Scrolls!) weren't
located until the 1900's, as well as other historically accurate texts. Wouldn't
that mean that the King James translation is antiquated? I have actually been
given tracts that somehow "prove" the KJV is more accurate than the NIV or some
other translation, and do you know I found errors in the KJV?? The KJV uses
italicized words in places because if something was unclear, then the writers
guessed. There are actual contradictions within its own text because of that.
THERE ARE NO CONTRADICTIONS IN THE KJV, ONLY MISUNDERSTANDING FROM
NOT KNOWING IT. THERE ARE HOWEVER MANY IN OTHER
TRANSLATION/INTERPRETATIONS/COMMENTARIES. Why do people always say they have
found errors in the KJV yet they never list any?
Please don't tell Country Girl that she isn't reading the "right" Scriptures,
as that is your opinion verses Biblical scholars and Theologians of our day.
From my research, to date, the most literal word-for-word English translation of
the original Greek and Hebrew text is the New American Standard, followed by the
New Living Translation as a close second. well that goes back to
basics. do you want the bible God ordained , the textus receptus or the catholic
perversions?TRANSLATION/INTERPRETATIONS/COMMENTARIES
based on the Alexandrian (not Koenig ,but classic Greek) text,the vaticainus and
sianaticus(which disagree with each other over 5000 times and KJV 30000 times)?
they where translated from Latin to Greek in late 1800 by Westcott and hort then
translated/interpreted into English. . Actually I give little respect to many
modern day scholars and theologians. most of them don't believe God gave us His
word except in 'essence'. God put every word in the mouths of the original
writers like dictation. no guess work on the writers part. He said His word
would endure forever. He said His word was as fine gold. He said His word was
for edification, doctrine, and establishing His kingdom. He said "By everyword
that proceeds out of the mouth of God". You need to ask yourself something. Do
you believe that Jesus as 2nd person of the Triune Godhead with all knowledge,
including foreknowledge created all that has been created, even knowing he would
have to suffer on the cross to safe our souls for eternity is so small He
couldn't or wouldn't properly translate His word into our language in it;'s
anteriority, correct, without error, for us to have as a guide line in life? Or
do you believe He would allow all this confusion over which 'Bible' is correct?
If you don't believe He can preserve His word for 1600 years, then accurately
translate it into a language that He also created, I really wonder how you can
believe He can preserve your soul for eternity. I'd hate to be in your shoes
with all that doubt. And if you have 5 different text that say even 3 different
things you have doubt. No way around it.
As for the 72 hours, if Jesus arose early
Sunday morning, after having been entombed for 3 days and 3 nights... if he had
been crucified on Wednesday, then that would have been 4 nights, not three. I
count backwards from early Sunday morning, and get to Thursday's "day" as His
crucifixion.crucified wed, entombed before sundown wed,
rose in 72 hrs on what we would call sat eve right after sundown.
All these numbers and theories
don't change the fact that our Lord and Saviour was crucified, and He rose again
on the third day. Many Christians celebrate that day on a Sunday, traditionally
known as Easter. Whether the word, "Easter" is rooted from paganism, which I
haven't studied, but I'll take your word for it, it doesn't really apply here.
The pagan holiday and the timing of Passover happen to coincide. God knew that.
Anyway, most Christians celebrate this day as the resurrection of our Lord. A
glorious day for us!! Many Christians set aside "Good Friday" to remember his
suffering and death, to remind ourselves of the penalty we would face ourselves
save from the loving grace and mercy of our Lord. It is humbling and cleansing
and freeing for me to recognize that even if it were just for me, Jesus would
have walked that road. For just one soul. It is a day of remembrance.
since we can only pinpoint 4 actual days of NT history, I'd just
as soon honor them on the correct days or it becomes like the Monday holidays we
have now. Palm Sunday, Day of Crucifixion (Wed), Resurrection (Sunday on Jewish
calendar), and Pentecost. of course I celebrate nothing on Pentecost or palm
Sunday. I may acknowledge them,but don't celebrate them. Just like we celebrate the birth of Jesus on December
25th each year, knowing it wasn't the actual time and day of His birth... the
whole REASON for our celebration is Jesus. So is Easter! It is about Him, not us
and our silly theories and numbers. We should focus this much attention on our
daily living. On what Jesus taught us... how to love God with all our heart,
soul, mind, and strength, and to love our neighbors as ourselves. Those are the
two greatest commandments. We should focus on the teachings from Matthew 5,
straight from the lips of Jesus, about all relationships we encounter. He didn't
mention anything about numbers or calendars there. Let's read the parables and
learn what God's Kingdom is truly about from them. While some of them mention
talents and treasures, their meaning goes much deeper. If we follow the example
of Jesus' prayer in Gethsemane... He was praying for us, right here, right
now... because we are not One in Him.
I will have to respectfully agree
to disagree with you on this one, Wes. I value accuracy, and I may even be
convinced about Jesus actual death being a Wednesday, but at this point, I don't
think it is crucial to my spiritual growth or the spiritual growth of my
children. I can just explain to them, like we do for Christmas and other
holidays, that there are historical discrepancies as to the exact dates and
times, but we choose to set aside this day as a day of remembrance and
celebration. I do because error begats error. If the
tool to get it right is there, we must use it or it is
sin.
2 Timothy 3
1. This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud,
blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3. Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent,
fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4. Traitors, heady, high-minded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of
God;
5. Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn
away.
6. For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly
women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7. Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
8. Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the
truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
9. But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto
all men, as theirs also was.
10. But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith,
longsuffering, charity, patience,
11. Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at
Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered
me.
12. Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer
persecution.
13. But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being
deceived.
14. But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been
assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
15. And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able
to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for
doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17. That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good
works.
Thank you for sharing your heart and for allowing me to
share mine. We only know in part, and when we get to know it all in Heaven,
we'll see a whole lot that we were wrong about!
Kathy
Blog Entry: Thanksgiving. The only true Christian
holiday
Actually, isn't it that John was called, "The Baptizer"? NOWHERE IN SCRIPTURE never called the baptizer always the
'Baptist' was called that because of
what he did, not a doctrine he taught. (That is how last names started, to help
differentiate who someone was talking about... because many first names were
used often, like John, so there was John the Miller, John the Baker, John the
'Smith... so he was John the Baptizer.) That makes a big difference.
I know how last names started and this is not the case here.He
taught a doctrine of repentance and Baptism .
Also, John was born to be the forerunner to
Jesus, the announcer of His coming, and we don't know much of his teachings,
except those of repentence and baptism. THIS IS 'THE DOCTRINE' He But Jesus certainly taught a lot more than that! After
John baptized Jesus, we know very little of him, except his death. The reason
for that is because his job was done. He announced the coming of the Messiah, to
prepare the way for a new doctrine, not his own. Until Jesus died and was
resurrected, all those people who did repent and were baptized by John still had
to make sacrifices to atone for their sins. That didn't change until after Jesus
was resurrected and became their atonement.STILL UNDER LAW WHICH
IS WHY JESUS DID IT. Actually the sacrifices other than the first Passover where
all symbolic. Christ was always the only atonement. The first Passover was a
physical 1 time act of faith that was needed for sanctification that night
alone. It a picture of the eternal atonement.
Whether Baptists today are considered a
denomination or a doctrine,THERE ARE BOTH.
I think that is semantics. I have
some very good friends who seem to have the same Baptist doctrine as
yourselves...and they are wonderful people (SO DO MORMONS,AS FAR
AS THE GODLY part IN APPEARANCE ANYWAY) .
I think they live a very Godly life, and I admire that in them. I think we would
disagree about a lot of what is considered Biblically correct doctrine, but that
doesn't make either one of us right or wrong.ONLY SCRIPTURE DOES
THAT I try to accept the whole Truth
of Bible, not just what supports my beliefs. I MUST OFTEN ACCEPT
THINGS THAT DON'T SUPPORT MY FLESHLY WISHES AND DESIRES I don't want to be right, but I want to live right
according to what would please my Father in Heaven.This statement says a whole lot. How can you live right if
you are wrong? He gave me the Bible
and the Holy Spirit as tools to help me, and I rely on His input (via self
study, prayer, pastoral teachings, other people, etc) to help me make the
changes I need to in my daily living to become more and more like Christ. I
think that is really all He expects of any of us.TRUE, if you really have them. I have stated before and I won't
back of it. The other bibles are not of God, so how can The Holy Spirit be in
them and guide you contrary to His Word, which is what he would be doing if He
allowed you to study an incorrect text?
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Blog Entry: THE HOAX
OF GOOD FRIDAY
I usually use the new king james version,but for you I am using the old king
james (1611). First of all,the verses you gave me don't say that Jesus was
keeping sunday as the Lord's day, they just say he was talking and teaching his
apostles after he rose from the grave. Just because he taught his Apostles does
not mean he was keeping sunday,cause he taught his apostles everyday of the week
,they were with him almost all the time. And when He rose from the grave he went
to see them so they would know he was alive. Second of all, the Sabbath was not
only for the Jews, because the Jews didn't even exist until around Abraham's
time. When God first gave us the Sabbath was in Genesis 2:1-3, there were no
Jews at that time. And in Exodus 20:8-11 God gave the Sabbath commandment to the
Isearlites (still no Jews yet). Now for the New Testament, the Sabbath was not
only for the Jews in this verse Acts 13:42 "And when the Jews were gone out of
the synagogue,the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them
the next Sabbath."DID THIS TO TEACH THEM BECAUSE THEY WHERE
THERE ON SABBATH,ALSO They taught in the Temple Everyday after the resurection.
And in Acts 13:44 "And the next
Sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God." The
whole city is not only Jews,the Sabbath is for Everyone! Also in Luke 13:10 even
Jesus was keeping the Sabbath in the New Testament, HAD TO FULFILL AND KEEP THE LAW. He was born a Jew and sent to
fulfill the law which He did. "And He
was teaching in one of the synagogues on the Sabbath." Do you belive in all the
other commandments in the Ten Commandments? Why would God change one and not
tell us in His word? SABBATH FOR MEN,NOT MEN FOR SABBATH
When He says "Do not kill" He means
it and when He says "Keep the seventh-day holy" He means it for everyone, just
like all the other commandments. No where in the bible does it say that the
Lord's Day or the Sabbath is on sunday, it is always on the seventh-day
Sabbath!!! God bless you in your study and thanks for helping me to study for
myself and find out why I believe the way I do. :)
This is the same error laden reasons that Sabbath keepers always give. Well
actually ,no He didn't. The Law was given to Isreal, not the gentiles. The
Sabbath was 1st given to men in Exodus. It originated at creation (Gen 2:1-3),
but that was God's rest, not mans. There is no record of men keeping the Sabbath
until Israel in the wilderness.Ne 9:13-14. Ex 31:12-18 says the Sabbath is a
special sign between God and Israel. If it had been for mankind in general it
couldn't be a sign for Israel. The fact is that the Sabbath belongs to the
nation of Israel and not to other peoples. It is important to note that the
Sabbath will be an eternal possession of Israel's (Ex 31:16), never to be
annulled nor transferred to another peoples. The Apostles mention the Sabbath 3
ways. 1) Symbol of salvation rest in Christ. Heb 4 2)The NT believer is not
bound to the Sabbath Col 2:9-17 3)NT believer has liberty in holy days. Rom 14.
The Lords day and first day of the week are the same and this is when Christ
resurrected, appeared to believers, ascended, and Pentecost. John was in the
spirit Rev 1.
Something else about the Ten Commandments. God gave Moses 10. The leaders
enlarged it to 613, then Jesus condensed it to 2.
Matthew 22:
35. Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him,
and saying,
36. Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37. Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart,
and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38. This is the first and great commandment.
39. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as
thyself.
40. On these two commandments hang all the law and the
prophets
2 Thessalonians 3:
13. But ye, brethren, be not weary in well doing.
14. And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have
no company with him, that he may be ashamed.
15. Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.
2 Timothy 4:5. But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work
of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.